I have a feeling people aren't kosher - even free range ones. Are they? I don't remember human flesh being explicitely mentioned in the Leviticus food laws ... ;-)
There's actually a debate as to if you were on a desert island and there was a dead human corpse and a pig and you needed to eat one to survive, which would be more problematic.
Human flesh is not prohibited outright, but a. you are prohibited from killing people most of the time and b. you can only eat animals slaughtered in a kosher manner. There's also c. you're prohibited from desecrating a dead body.
Most prohibitions are nullified in a life or death scenario. Also, there are some peoples that the Israelites were commanded to kill, such as the Amalekites. So one could imagine a scenario where you were an Israelite in battle with an Amalekite, you killed him the same way you would slaughter a kosher animal, and there was no other food and you would die if you didn't eat the corpse. Then you could do it.
So not a matter of kosher so much a matter of all the surrounding laws.
the two of you can pick which of you gets to consider eating the other one on the desert island, then :-P although the question is sort of moot if ranka wins, since he has no kosher obligations...
Are you saying the gentiles are cannibals? Is that what you're implying? :-P
Well, Christianity does have ritual symbolic cannibalism (theophagy?) as one of its central rituals, so you might be on to something in regards to Christians ... ;-)
i'm saying that if the question is "dead sen_ichi_rei or dead pig", "OH NO PIG" is not really a dilemma for someone who has no religious objections to eating pigs. :-P
the point of the debate is whether there are basic laws of human morality that don't need to be stated in the Torah, such that cannibalism is just SO horrific and unthinkable that it doesn't need to be explicitly prohibited.
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Date: 2008-06-30 08:46 pm (UTC)I have a feeling people aren't kosher - even free range ones. Are they? I don't remember human flesh being explicitely mentioned in the Leviticus food laws ... ;-)
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Date: 2008-07-01 04:41 am (UTC)Human flesh is not prohibited outright, but a. you are prohibited from killing people most of the time and b. you can only eat animals slaughtered in a kosher manner. There's also c. you're prohibited from desecrating a dead body.
Most prohibitions are nullified in a life or death scenario. Also, there are some peoples that the Israelites were commanded to kill, such as the Amalekites. So one could imagine a scenario where you were an Israelite in battle with an Amalekite, you killed him the same way you would slaughter a kosher animal, and there was no other food and you would die if you didn't eat the corpse. Then you could do it.
So not a matter of kosher so much a matter of all the surrounding laws.
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Date: 2008-07-01 04:53 am (UTC)And
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Date: 2008-07-01 04:54 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-07-01 05:29 pm (UTC)although the question is sort of moot if
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Date: 2008-07-02 12:50 am (UTC)Well, Christianity does have ritual symbolic cannibalism (theophagy?) as one of its central rituals, so you might be on to something in regards to Christians ... ;-)
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