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theyellowhobbit(21:23:12) Rachel: and no one answered my question on the NG
(21:23:39) Rachel: " and a question for the masses: is the prohibition of having personal conversations on the newsgroup d'oraita or d'rabbanan?
discuss. [and provide texts if possible.]"
(21:23:52) Rachel: i want an answer!
(21:24:26) Reuven: I think only a few people know that, and they're not likely on the newsgroup anymore
(21:24:50) Rachel: like who? shlomo?
(21:25:29) Reuven: Perhaps... But I'm thinking of the freshmen five
(21:25:52) Reuven: And I think It was avi ray or shimon who posted the psak against them doing that
(21:26:37) Rachel: avi ray is still out there
(21:26:43) Reuven: true
(21:26:44) Rachel: i don't know about shimon
(21:26:54) Rachel: he's probably gone
(21:27:01) Rachel: especially since he's married now
(21:27:12) Rachel: married people hardly ever stay on the ng
(21:27:18) Rachel: with the exception of Tivka
(21:27:44) Reuven: They aren't there
(21:28:34) Rachel: they were for a year
(21:28:39) Rachel: everyone leaves eventually
(21:28:44) Rachel: except for maybe the rays
(21:28:49) Reuven: And DC
(21:28:57) Rachel: brb
(21:35:10) Rachel: dc never posts, though
(21:36:48) Reuven: He last posted 4/28/2005
(21:37:01) Rachel: that's like 3 months ago
(21:37:07) Reuven: He is a year older than the rays...
(21:37:12) Rachel: ah
(21:37:30) Reuven: And he is married
(21:37:50) Rachel: i wonder if there's a חיוב to post in the ng
(21:38:31) Rachel: and are women פטור מן הנוסגרופ?
(21:38:49) Rachel: it might be seen as a positive time-bound commandment
(21:39:13) Reuven: Why? People post on the newsgroup at all hours?
(21:39:23) Rachel: though they don't on shabbat
(21:39:34) Rachel: though then again people don't do a lot of things on shabbat
(21:39:39) Rachel: maybe it's not time-bound
(21:39:51) Rachel: and thus women are equally obligated
(21:40:21) Rachel: though maybe they can be yotzei through a man posting on their behalf, which might be better, since it could be not-tznius for a woman to post in her own name
(21:40:37) Rachel: as it says in brachot 24b: the posting of a woman is ervah
(21:42:04) Reuven: I think I'm goign to have to refer you to a livejournal post of one of your friends. People practice tzniut. Things are tzanuah. (part of speech difference)
(21:42:29) Rachel: posting would be a practice
(21:42:41) Rachel: and can i post this on the ng?
(21:42:49) Rachel: or can you post it on my behalf?
(21:43:15) Reuven: http://www.livejournal.com/users/thevortex/35871.html
(21:43:40) Reuven: That was the post of your friend I was talking about
(21:43:54) Rachel: that's ariela's friend, but ok
(21:44:47) Reuven: Bah, I don't track who is who's friend, I just follow the comments around... but I remembered this post because I like careful grammar
(21:45:13) Rachel: ah
(21:45:30) Rachel: well fine, it's not tzenuah for a woman to post on the ng in her own name. happy?
(21:45:40) Rachel: still doesn't change the halachic principle
(21:48:33) Reuven: Yep. I think you're being very machmir on הלכות נוסגרופ, but who knows what might lead to mixed dancing.
(21:23:39) Rachel: " and a question for the masses: is the prohibition of having personal conversations on the newsgroup d'oraita or d'rabbanan?
discuss. [and provide texts if possible.]"
(21:23:52) Rachel: i want an answer!
(21:24:26) Reuven: I think only a few people know that, and they're not likely on the newsgroup anymore
(21:24:50) Rachel: like who? shlomo?
(21:25:29) Reuven: Perhaps... But I'm thinking of the freshmen five
(21:25:52) Reuven: And I think It was avi ray or shimon who posted the psak against them doing that
(21:26:37) Rachel: avi ray is still out there
(21:26:43) Reuven: true
(21:26:44) Rachel: i don't know about shimon
(21:26:54) Rachel: he's probably gone
(21:27:01) Rachel: especially since he's married now
(21:27:12) Rachel: married people hardly ever stay on the ng
(21:27:18) Rachel: with the exception of Tivka
(21:27:44) Reuven: They aren't there
(21:28:34) Rachel: they were for a year
(21:28:39) Rachel: everyone leaves eventually
(21:28:44) Rachel: except for maybe the rays
(21:28:49) Reuven: And DC
(21:28:57) Rachel: brb
(21:35:10) Rachel: dc never posts, though
(21:36:48) Reuven: He last posted 4/28/2005
(21:37:01) Rachel: that's like 3 months ago
(21:37:07) Reuven: He is a year older than the rays...
(21:37:12) Rachel: ah
(21:37:30) Reuven: And he is married
(21:37:50) Rachel: i wonder if there's a חיוב to post in the ng
(21:38:31) Rachel: and are women פטור מן הנוסגרופ?
(21:38:49) Rachel: it might be seen as a positive time-bound commandment
(21:39:13) Reuven: Why? People post on the newsgroup at all hours?
(21:39:23) Rachel: though they don't on shabbat
(21:39:34) Rachel: though then again people don't do a lot of things on shabbat
(21:39:39) Rachel: maybe it's not time-bound
(21:39:51) Rachel: and thus women are equally obligated
(21:40:21) Rachel: though maybe they can be yotzei through a man posting on their behalf, which might be better, since it could be not-tznius for a woman to post in her own name
(21:40:37) Rachel: as it says in brachot 24b: the posting of a woman is ervah
(21:42:04) Reuven: I think I'm goign to have to refer you to a livejournal post of one of your friends. People practice tzniut. Things are tzanuah. (part of speech difference)
(21:42:29) Rachel: posting would be a practice
(21:42:41) Rachel: and can i post this on the ng?
(21:42:49) Rachel: or can you post it on my behalf?
(21:43:15) Reuven: http://www.livejournal.com/users/thevortex/35871.html
(21:43:40) Reuven: That was the post of your friend I was talking about
(21:43:54) Rachel: that's ariela's friend, but ok
(21:44:47) Reuven: Bah, I don't track who is who's friend, I just follow the comments around... but I remembered this post because I like careful grammar
(21:45:13) Rachel: ah
(21:45:30) Rachel: well fine, it's not tzenuah for a woman to post on the ng in her own name. happy?
(21:45:40) Rachel: still doesn't change the halachic principle
(21:48:33) Reuven: Yep. I think you're being very machmir on הלכות נוסגרופ, but who knows what might lead to mixed dancing.
